Dear Luz,

Thank you so much for your response.

If I understood the video call correctly, vulnerability was considered to be an fp (those who attended the video call, please correct me if I happen to be wrong in this). Assigning to it the meaning such as open, clear, present , etc. implies to me that it is an lp. So, I assume you meant vulnerability to be an lp in the context of the old man giving the lecture.

In fact, my original confusion is indeed a result of this apparent conflict in the meaning of vulnerability. Sometimes I have felt that the term is used as an fp and other times as an lp. Since it cannot be both, I have always felt that I am missing something here. This is the reason for my original post.

When I asked my question to Gary and Linda during the live call, I used the term vulnerability only as an fp, thinking that that is how they both were using the term. Only later when I started to read the corresponding pages in the three books I mentioned in my previous post, I recalled that I was confused about this term during my earlier readings. As I still remain confused, I really appreciate any further help from the spiritual partners.

Or, if any of you who have been in direct contact with Gary and Linda through workshops know of a method by which I can directly ask the question to them and directly get a response, please let me know. I have sent some questions online in the past to them. The impression I have developed is that they do not send responses directly to the individuals asking the questions (which to me is understandable given the possibility that they must be receiving too many questions). They select questions and answer them on the video. If I am wrong, please let me know. That will be very helpful to me.

Thank you so much in advance for any help.

With love and trust,
Sundar

Hello Jaye,

Thank you for your response. I really appreciate it.

In case you thought about the answer to my question in the post that started this discussion, namely “What does the term vulnerable mean in the above context?”, please share.

When Gary writes referring to the old man giving the lecture, “He was vulnerable”, do we take it to mean that the old man ‘felt his heart race, his stomach area push out and tighten, as well as his throat tighten with a lump and scratchiness’. It is possible this happened when the old man was crying once during his lecture. And, what I like to ask myself and make sure of during the process of my understanding Gary is: Is this what Gary is actually implying? I consider it an essential question to ask and find the answer to in this process of understanding Gary’s mind-boggling teachings.

Is it also possible that ‘the thoughts came in the old man that he might get hurt by being open’? I find this somewhat hard to see, given Gary’s own account of the nature of the old man, especially the powerful quote regarding ten thousand ounces of gold. But, who knows? That is what probably Gary means. If so, that is what I want to know and understand by starting this discussion here. I sincerely thank the spiritual partners for their contributions to this discussion.

Jaye, thank you again so much.

With love and trust,
Sundar

Dear Doug,

I just read your post intently a few times during my morning walking exercise. It is indeed deep. I really think I see a light at the end of the tunnel.

After my first post which started this thread, I have been wondering on and off whether ‘vulnerable’ could be this, could be that, etc.

One thing I have all along been wondering is whether there might be a subtle difference between the two phrases ‘being vulnerable’ (as a matter of fact) and ‘feeling vulnerable’ (in the sense of an fp). Your post seems to make me consider a continuation of my analysis along this line, which I intend to do and have already started.

As a part of the process, I want to listen to Gary and Linda’s live call video on the nature of vulnerability again a few more times (which I have already started) and read the concerned passages in their books again a few more times, trying to compare and contrast all the information, including that in your post, on the basis of an alleged subtle distinction between the above two phrases and see whether that clarifies my confusion.

I just wanted to update you. When I am kind of done, I will post my further understanding for you to check and tell me whether I am on the right track or not. I really appreciate the two examples you have illustrated in your post to bring about, I think, an important contrast. They seem to me to bring out the depth of your post.

Thank you so much for being a genuine spiritual partner. I really appreciate it.

With love and trust,
Sundar

Soula,

Thank you for sharing.

If possible, is it okay for you to rephrase the following sentence of yours or maybe elaborate? “A recent event at work was very significant for me in that [I] chose to challenge fps that were tolerant of certain behaviours that were not in my integrity.” I definitely don’t mean for you to divulge more details than possible. I tried to understand it in terms of what follows, but then realized I might be making assumptions as to what you might mean, which is not a good idea.

Thank you.

With love and trust,
Sundar

Dear Doug (as well as other spiritual partners contributing to this thread and yet other spiritual partners reading this thread),

As I indicated in an earlier post, I first listened to Gary and Linda’s video on the nature of vulnerability. (Actually, I normally prepare transcripts of their videos, whenever time permits. In this particular case I wanted to prepare such a transcript of the whole video first. Although it demands time, it seems to be worth it. After preparing the transcript, I read it a few times.) Then, I reread the three passages involving the term vulnerable or vulnerability in the Heart of the Soul along with the surrounding texts.

Although it feels that I seem to understand the surrounding texts, whenever I try to ascribe a specific meaning to the term vulnerable or vulnerability in the sentences in which it is used, I think I am still missing something big time.

The three contexts in which Gary and Linda use the term vulnerable or vulnerability in the Heart of the Soul are in the following chapters (I also indicate the specific pages on which the term appears): (1) Intimacy, pp. 113 and 114. (2) Anger, pp. 136 and 137. (3) Idol Worship, pp. 205, 206 and 207.

I will share and discuss these one after the other in the ensuing posts, as and when time permits, with the confidence that you and other spiritual partners who can help me understand will do so. I would really appreciate the opportunity for me to understand this term, vulnerable, vulnerability, which now appears to me to be even deeper and more profound than I might have assumed before.

With love and trust,
Sundar