I have been experiencing sadness and let-down from the holiday weekend, spending time with my son who continues to struggle with his depression. I feel so powerless to help him and fearful of saying too much or the wrong thing and pushing him further away from me. Because I am not connected with anyone on a regular basis to practice these principles, it took me until the last hour (it’s now 5:15pm and I have felt this way since early this morning) to remember that a FP is working here. I feel constriction in my chest and tightness in my belly. I have been fighting a sore throat since Thanksgiving night (when I spent the night at my son’s place) – I RARELY get sick – but realized instantly that there was something I wanted/needed to say, or not say. I recognized that I was feeling afraid but forgot to relate it to these principles, while I was still with my son and could have talked to him from this perspective. This FP believes that if I say too much or the wrong thing, that I will push him away and I will be more alone than I already am. I welcome feedback on this topic. Thanks so much – Diane

Hi Diane,

I like to give the following feedback. If it makes sense, please consider it.

The only thing that matters on your part here is your love for your son and your trying to make it more and more genuine and more and more unconditional, no matter what, without expecting anything in return. That is all you have to make sure of. And that is all you can make sure of because that is all in your hands. Once that is taken care of, everything else will work out the way it should. You can definitely trust the Universe and it will plan everything the way it should and create the appropriate circumstances for you. Those are not in our hands and are beyond our control. The nice thing is that we can rest assured that our souls, guide souls and Teacher souls (namely the Universe) would create the right circumstances as long as we understand that it is all about love. Love appears to be the only thing that ever matters.

With love and trust,
Sundar

Just an afterthought:

Yes, again, just make sure to love him unconditionally, which might be a hard thing to do, given the immense power of the fp’s, but that is simply what is expected of us in our lives in the Grand Design by the Divine Intelligence. If we want joy, not pain, we need to follow the corresponding laws; no other go, it seems.

Hi Sundar, I noticed that you repsonded to this posting 2 days ago then added additional posts over a few hours 2 days later. I am wondering what you may be noticing about yourself. Were there any Frightened parts of the personality active during this time?
Much love, Patrice

Hi Patrice,

Thank you for your concern based in love. It means a lot to me.

The reason for the additions 2 days later is what I said in the beginning of the post: “On further thought, I feel that I have tried to compress a lot of information in a few sentences in the previous post above, thereby making me wonder whether it is even clear enough and could make enough sense. So, I am going to try to elaborate on it a little more.”

And, a major point I added was the following question I raised there: “is there a specific order to follow? more specifically, should I always first discover and identify my fp’s before I take any other step?” I wanted to suggest to consider the possibility that even if there is difficulty in exactly identifying the fp involved, it might be beneficial to apply the two fundamental ideas of Gary’s spiritual theory, namely it is all about love and we can always trust the Universe in our efforts.

Any forum is associated with multiple types of benefits. Of course, in this forum one obvious benefit is for one spiritual partner to be supportive of another that might need that support at the moment.

Another benefit can be to develop a healthy, constructive, intellectual discussion on Gary’s teachings. When I try this, it appears that I come across as being controlled by an fp in me (if my memory serves right, at least one other spiritual partner asked me in the past to check my fp). I wrote: “At the moment I don’t know what answer Gary (who is the final authority) provides. I might have easily overlooked it in his works. If anyone has already spotted the answer in any of his works, please, please share the reference.” I assumed this could lead to a potential discussion at least, even if no one has yet spotted the answer.

Maybe I should point out the following about myself. Anything I happen to learn, I analyze a lot. I analyze Gary’s theory a lot (and thereby have benefited a lot). I teach thermodynamic theory and quantum theory, two of the mind-blowing, powerful theories in the sciences. I am always amazed by how just a handful of assumptions made in any powerful theory ends up helping us understand, make sense of and explain a whole slew of facts. In a similar manner, with a handful of assumptions Gary’s theory appears to explain everything about life and I like to go deeper and deeper into it. I really appreciate discussions on this forum.

However, Patrice, please help me by pointing out which sentences I wrote in my posts or which ideas I conveyed in my posts happen to reveal the possible working of fp in me. I really appreciate it.

With love and trust,
Sundar

Hello Brothers and sisters
Enjoyed these sharings . Donna I also experience similar F/PS with my daughters depression my tendencies are to please ,caretake , fix and teach her.I have learned this only enables her more to be a victim and continue her behavior I am in much pain when trying to relate to her but I feel as much loving thoughts in the moment and try to come from the most loving part of my personality.I let go of all judgment towards her just being together and enjoying our moments together has been very helpful.Sundar ,I am also in awe of the revelation of quantum physic pointing to the connection of all forms and dependencies upon and proof of universal intelligence much beyond my sense . I appreciate Gary and his gift of bringing quantum understanding into human relationships . Your reference to Gary as an authority leads me more into my head than my heart. For me I am working on my body and heart centers to be the authorities in my life
Blessings LEO

Hi David,

Obviously for anyone, not just for myself, that would depend on the specific nature of the post in question. What is your point, please? It might be helpful to be direct, plain and frank. I would very much appreciate it.

I am extremely sorry if I am still not making myself clear enough. As an important part of supporting one another as spiritual partners, let us also have on this forum intellectual, constructive, high-level discussions on Gary’s wonderful ideas so that we understand them deeper and deeper.

As a starter, how about considering the question I have already raised?

Should one always first identify the exact fp involved in a given situation before taking any other step or could one go ahead and start applying any possible lp without wasting the time and wait to identify the exact fp involved as time passes by?

If my question is not clear enough, I will be glad to try to offer clarification to any question raised. Please, please, let us have a great discussion, spiritual partners.