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Topic: Karmic relationships - christine B Started 7 years, 7 months ago

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Posted 8 years ago

I would like to learn more about Karmic relationships. I have recently come out of what I believe to have been a karmic relationship but am still feeling the pain and loss of that as it has been my life for 30 years . Hoping to find a new way of being as I currently am feeling lost. Love christine

Posted 8 years ago

Hi Christine, welcome to the forum. How fortunate (karmically right) it is, that you have now come to the right place to learn here to find a new way of being. A way to be authentically powerful. There are a lot of resources here, a lot of wisdom.

Good luck inyour journey! And let us know if you have questions or need support.
Love,
Shelley

Posted 8 years ago

Hello Christine,

Welcome to the forum. As Shelley correctly observed, you have come to the right place where you can find a number of videos of wisdom by Gary and Linda. Just in case you are not already familiar, click on All Teachings on the Home page and then go to View Topic List. Click on the link with the title that interests you and you will find different videos on the corresponding topic there.

However, just to help you with a brief start of concepts I would like to add a little bit here.

If I understand Gary correctly, every relationship is a karmic relationship – daughter/mother, daughter/father, sister/sister, sister/brother, wife/husband, friend/friend, etc. No specific relationship is considered a karmic relationship; each one is karmic. The idea behind such relationships is simple – to help with the spiritual growth of the given individual, which is simply discovering, challenging and changing the specific frightened parts as well as discovering and cultivating the specific loving parts that the soul decided to bring with the given individual in the given lifetime. It is a contract and commitment between the concerned souls to offer this help to each other’s personalities. In other words, whenever an interaction occurs between me and another, the fundamental question is: do I allow my frightened part to become active, or my loving part? If it is the former, then the effect, according to the law of cause and effect or the law of karma, is pain. If it is the latter, then the effect, according to the law of cause and effect or the law of karma, is joy.

Thus, whenever such a relationship ends between two given individuals, there are two possible kinds of reasons. A frightened part of one of the individuals or both involved may have caused such an end, in which case the effect is pain. Or, a loving part of one of the individuals or both involved may have caused such an end, in which case the effect is joy. Thus, it is the effect that is an indicator of the actual cause, which allows the individual(s) concerned to properly analyze the given situation and understand it and thus helps the individual to spiritually grow.

Hope this helps a little bit as a start. Please feel free to indicate if I am not clear enough anywhere. Also, more importantly, please keep in mind that it is always possible that I didn’t understand Gary correctly. So, please be willing to question what you read above.

With love and trust,
Sundar Naga

Posted 8 years ago

Hi Christine,

I hope I am not usurping your conversation here, but I need to share about my own current struggle with a Karmic relationship. And rather than start a new thread, I think it may be better to continue this conversation.

I have shared before that I have one person on my team with whom I have a troubled relationship. I was recently being considered for a promotion. And right in the midst of it, I had a little bit of a blow up with this person. Now the company I work for is an amazingly good company, and as such, it would not promote someone who is having trouble with her reports.

I could be angry with my report for sabotaging my opportunity. I could be angry with the company for not seeing how challenging my report is. And I did, and maybe even still do from time to time.

But somehow, Gary’s teaching that you look at every event as an opportunity to learn something about yourself keeps flashing into my brain. Focus inward, my intuition keeps prompting me. It forces me to get a little bit still and look at my issues. Am I perhaps perfectionistic? Am I too hard on myself and on my people? I have no trouble with the high performers on my team, but if I am honest, I have always had trouble with those who do not perform to a certain level. But then, that means I have not really understood and imbibed the concept of serving the people who report to me. So, then, I don’t really deserve to move up, do I? Hmmm, it’s a bitter pill to swallow. It feels like this was my one chance, I’ll never again have a chance like this… it breaks my heart that karma came up at just this moment to cause this blow up now…

But I must keep reminding myself, this event may be preventing my rise of materialistic power, but if I can use this as an opportunity to discover and own and work on my issues, I will be a better person, and have a better life all around. I must continue to love this person, because she brought me this learning opportunity, she is bringing me one tiny step closer to authentic power if I use this opportunity in the right way.

But it is hard. Any words of wisdom, any support, guidance would be much appreciated!

Love,
Shelley

Posted 8 years ago

Hi Shelley,

I vividly remember our prior conversations on this specific relationship of yours.

Your writing is full of wisdom. I find it extremely powerful, as always. I personally believe that there is no further need to add any words. The statement “But I must keep reminding myself, this event may be preventing my rise of materialistic power, but if I can use this as an opportunity to discover and own and work on my issues, I will be a better person, and have a better life all around.” seems to say it all. Yes, it is just a question of that constant reminder and application of Gary’s powerful ideas. I repeat the following quote of Gary’s several times each day: My interactions form the substance of my spiritual growth since they provide me the opportunities to develop emotional awareness and to make responsible choices.

And, it is a great example of karmic relationship. To my earlier list, namely daughter/mother, daughter/father, sister/sister, sister/brother, wife/husband, friend/friend, etc., I must add colleague/colleague. It always seems to be a very important kind of karmic relationship.

Heartily wishing you all the best in your spiritual growth!

With love and trust,
Sundar

Posted 8 years ago

I experienced this quote recently and it stopped me in my tracks. It is not until you have the courage to engage in Human Relationships that you grow. I have so often shrunk back from the challenging relationships thinking it was in my best interest. I see that differently now and am grateful the Universe is filled with love and patients while I grow.

With Love and Gratitude,

Doug

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